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LionHell
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France
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Posted - 10/24/2003 :  12:07:39  Show Profile  Click to see LionHell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My problem is that Merlin displays ballons and text, but doesn't speak.

On my own computer all is perfect, but not for visitors.

I have inserted autodownload objects, as shown on microsoft related page (automatic download), but something is wrong... I can't find out which ...

Here is my automatic download script:

<!-- MSAgent Language -->
<OBJECT WIDTH=0 HEIGHT=0
CLASSID="CLSID:C348040C-A7F8-11D1-AA75-00C04FA34D72"
CODEBASE="#VERSION=2,0,0,0">
</OBJECT>
<!-- MSAgent Core -->
<object id="AgentControl" width="0" height="0"
classid="CLSID:D45FD31B-5C6E-11D1-9EC1-00C04FD7081F"
codebase="#VERSION=2,0,0,0">
</object>
<!-- Text to Speech -->
<object id="L&HTruVoice" width="0" height="0"
classid="CLSID:B8F2846E-CE36-11D0-AC83-00C04FD97575"
codebase="#VERSION=6,0,0,0">
</object>
<!-- Text to Speech TTS3000 -->
<OBJECT WIDTH=0 HEIGHT=0
CLASSID="CLSID:1D87F5B4-05F1-11D2-AD7C-0000F8799342"
CODEBASE="#VERSION=1,0,0,0">
</OBJECT>
<!-- SAPI 4.0a -->
<OBJECT WIDTH=0 HEIGHT=0
CLASSID="CLSID:0C7F3F20-8BAB-11d2-9432-00C04F8EF48F"
CODEBASE="#VERSION=4,0,0,0">
</OBJECT>

Merlin displays balloons, but do not speak (on my visitors) ... why ?


Thank you

LionHell


LionHell

Grandpa Jim
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USA
729 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2003 :  13:49:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MASH can make this for you.Your visitors will have a long wait.Let your vistors go to this page.
http://www.msagentring.org/setup.htm
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FireCaptEd
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USA
581 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2003 :  15:42:51  Show Profile  Send FireCaptEd an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hi,
You leave out a lot of information in your original memo. Based on the information you DO provide let me try to make some inferences...

the following two lines are the most important:
quote:
My problem is that Merlin displays ballons and text, but doesn't speak.
On my own computer all is perfect, but not for visitors.



From these facts I conclude the following:
You have done everything right, since it A) works on your machine, B) works on visitor machines except for the text-to-speech(TTS) engine.

The next step is to ask the visitors (who see the agent speech balloon but cannot hear him) if they are running WindowsXP. If so, there is an issue with SAPI 4.0 files that are not native in WinXP. (The Microsoft site says you should reload SAPI 4.0 in Windows2000, but all of my visitors using Windows2000 have had no problems. These files appear to be native in Win2000.)

I also had this problem on my own system, but then Gordon and Jim pointed out that I needed to rerun SAPI 4.0. No problems ever since! (see the thread: MASH Forum / Text-To-Speech (TTS) Engines / WindowsXP does not speak!)

give this download to your WinXP (and Win2000) visitors.
The download is:
http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/sapi/spchapi.exe

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Ed


Amalgamated Union of Philosophers, Sages, Luminaries, and Other Professional Thinking People.

Edited by - FireCaptEd on 10/25/2003 15:46:05
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LionHell
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France
48 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2003 :  03:59:58  Show Profile  Click to see LionHell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for you reply ! I already guessed the problem was with SAPI... some of my visitors who manually installed SAPI, TTS and so on have no problem.

I hoped these resource would install by itself with the following self detection object:
CLASSID="CLSID:0C7F3F20-8BAB-11d2-9432-00C04F8EF48F"

But it doesn't work...

Thanks for you good answer !

LionHell

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FireCaptEd
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USA
581 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2003 :  01:34:51  Show Profile  Send FireCaptEd an AOL message  Reply with Quote
My pleasure!
Cheers!


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larksaw
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Posted - 11/15/2003 :  07:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I'm reading this thread right. Is if people who visit your website don't have speech engine installed on their computer to hear the word sounds, Then it should download and install itself. So to make the site more enjoyable to the visitor and so they don't have to download and install it themselves before they can view the site properly!
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larksaw
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Posted - 11/15/2003 :  08:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LionHell:

I've been doing some check with the automatic downloads what I have found it it need path in codebase

<object id="AgentControl" width="0" height="0"
classid="CLSID:D45FD31B-5C6E-11D1-9EC1-00C04FD7081F"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/agent2/MSagent.exe#VERSION=2,0,0,0">
</object>
<object id="L&HTruVoice" width="0" height="0"
classid="CLSID:B8F2846E-CE36-11D0-AC83-00C04FD97575"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/agent2/tv_enua.exe#VERSION=6,0,0,0">
</object>
<object id="MSSpeechRecognition" width="0" height="0"
classid="CLSID:161FA781-A52C-11D0-8D7C-00A0C9034A7E"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/agent2/actcnc.exe#VERSION=4,0,0,0">
</object>


After place the path they work perfect!
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FireCaptEd
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USA
581 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2003 :  15:37:50  Show Profile  Send FireCaptEd an AOL message  Reply with Quote

Yes to both statements... sometimes.

Usually it works this way:
A visitor goes to your site and, if they do not have the necessary files on their machine, it prompts you to install them. This is only on the first visit, if they choose to download the files. The character file never downloads, just the support files and the Text-To-Speech(TTS) engine. After a visitor allows these automatic downloads to occur, every visit thereafter is faster, except all of the character animations have to download to a temporary folder again.

Windows2000 and WindowsXP boasted of having these files (except the character files) as part of the operating system. These are the same resource files used by Microsoft Office help assistants (remember Clippy?).

True to their word, Windows2000 users are not prompted for any downloads. However, SAPI 4.0 files were not included with WindowsXP, and they are used by Microsoft Agent 2.0 (what we use to get the agents to talk). Therefore, users of WindowsXP cannot get their agents to actually talk, nor are they prompted to download the appropriate files to enable the characters to talk. Other versions of Windows(98/95 and even Windows 3.1) will prompt you to download the files that are not native to the operating system.

Therefore, users of WindowsXP must perform an extra step, which is to download SAPI 4.0.

The symptom of this missing file is as follows: The Agent character (NOTE: Microsoft is VERY QUICK to correct you if you call Merlin, Genie, Peedy, or Robby AGENTS. They insist on them being called AGENT CHARACTERS) animates, the word balloon appears, but the agent does not move it's mouth, and you do not hear anything.

What I have learned, through messages on this forum, is that the character can be loaded locally on the visitor's PC to allow MUCH faster responses from the Agent character.

I think that addresses your questions!

Cheers!
Ed

PS: Gordon, keep me honest! Let me know if I said anything out of kilter!


Amalgamated Union of Philosophers, Sages, Luminaries, and Other Professional Thinking People.

Edited by - FireCaptEd on 11/15/2003 15:41:38
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larksaw
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Posted - 11/16/2003 :  06:55:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FireCaptEd> Am I understanding you right that WinXP will not auto download or that they won't even be prompted to download sapi 4.0?? Also from the testing I've done so far the acf links seem to work pretty well! I've only be playing for 3 days but I will say this Gordon job well done on MASH! It's very simple to use and produce very cool results.
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FireCaptEd
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USA
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Posted - 11/16/2003 :  14:27:36  Show Profile  Send FireCaptEd an AOL message  Reply with Quote

quote:
FireCaptEd> Am I understanding you right that WinXP will not auto download or that they won't even be prompted to download sapi 4.0??


Yes, that is correct. The symptom to WindowsXP users is that the Agent character will not speak, but it will appear and perform the animations. The text, however, will also appear in a word balloon, if they are enabled (that's the default state).

Cheers!
Ed


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